What's all this about the Jews?

Israel and the Jews special ** NEW ** (MARCH 2009)

(40 minutes)
Featuring renowned commentator and Bible teacher Tony Pearce, this is a wide-ranging discussion on current issues concerning Israel and the Jews. We cover the history of the conflict, the Gaza situation, the Holocaust, Anti-semitism, Replacement Theology, Jewish unbelief and prophecy and End Times and much more.
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End of the western world as we know it -????

These are my comments on New York Times Best Selling author Ed Gungor's blog in myspace. I am Israel supporter, and very concerned about Obama's rift with Israel government regarding the land issue

find a link to Ed's blog from my site www.myspace.com/scandopunk

End of the western world as we know it--Should we let our leaders intervene God's Master Plan( And bear the consequences of this collective sin done in our name)?

Today I was driving on the Orbitat Motorway M25 and all of the sudden thick smoke surrounded the whole road, there was a car in full flames on the road and I saw one brave fire man jumping out of his vehicle on his own, without protective gear, to tame the flames. I have never been next to a fire so intense, as I passed the car I closed all the windows and yet I could feel the intesense heat coming from the flames..and I just passed by quickly, Imagine the heat the fire fighter was experiencing...
Two pastors in London, Colin Dye from Kensington Temple and Pastor Matthew. A. from KICC have prophecied for the coming judgement over London. People are now interceeding like grazy, to soften the impact to ask more mercy and time...This is what we are meant to do, to pray first for The United Jewish Jerusalem, won in the 60's war and then praying for our country and the city we are living in. Ed is absolutely right, sin still bears consequences,but in Jesus honest, repenting, non game playing Christians have been made righteous. And God has troughout the ages heard the prayers of few righteous men or just for the sake of their righteousness in God saved entire cities and nations. So let's make more born again Diciples of Jesus, it is in our own interest as well to be diciple maker!
Ed hits the nail again, when he uses Israel, God's First Born and Apple of his Eye as an example in illustrating, what sinning and turning away from Elohim, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and Y'shua/Jesus can do to an individual or nation. Relationship with Jesus is a covenant, two way binding relationship same as is the Abrahamic Covenant Jewish believer has with Elohim. Walking away or breaking the covenant by constantly or purpose erring in our way, can indeed bring God's fury into our lives, is strong conviction I hold too.
However, this does not mean that the Father in his fury will abandon his people, his children forever, in fact he is still with his chosen ones even in Tribulations and Dangers. He is just faithful to his own spiritual law, his word in the Bible, the boundaries he has set for the rulers, nations and individuals.Just as he is faithful to oversee natural laws such as gravity and rain work in a same manner all the time, he is just and faithful in favour and punishment. But his love is so big that if we really ask humbly and genuinely, he can lift the punishment off our shoulders. This is why Jesus came here, on our own without Jesus, being righteous would have been too hard for us if not impossible in a Satan run sin sick world.
Blessing Israel and Jewish, brings blessings! Obama, Pope, Eu and Saudis with their plan to divide Jerusalem must be out of their mind or completely blinded by the enemy of our souls..so clear is the message in the bible for the God's favour for real physical Israel.
It is sheer arrogance to assume that merely on human rights basis or going by the rule of the majority man would override God's Master plan for revived Israel. Attack on Jewish in the 60's war in Israel and their supernatural quick victory, was part of the Master plan set by God himself, can be so clearly seen in the light of these scriptures I pasted below this chapter. If we do not stop our rulers bringing collective punishment on our countries with their plan to divide Israel, heaven help us, so clear is the warning and God' s purpose to bring Jewish back to Israel expressed in these scriptures. I would go as far as saying that the Werstern world as it has been, Christian and prosperuous, can be brought to an end by Barack Hussein Obama and German Pope, who have put Abortion issue aside to go along with Saudi plan, EU giving its blessings as well..we are all innit and we must pray for God who is in control to stop this process and huge mistake these people are about to lead us into..See these scriptures, the message could not be clearer:
p.s Judeo Christian Union, all Evangelical curches,American Jewry we must start campaigning against this tendency to Isolate Israel, to divide Israel and leave Israel alone with Iran

The Palestinian Covenant gives the conditions under which Israel entered the land of promise. It is important to see that the nation has never as yet taken the land under the unconditional Abrahamic Covenant, nor has it ever possessed the whole land (cf. Gen 15:18 Num 34:1-12. The Palestinian Covenant is in seven parts.
(1) Dispersion for disobedience, Dt 30:1 28:63-68 See Scofield Note: "Gen 15:18"
(2) The future repentance of Israel while in the dispersion, Dt 30:2.
(3) The return of the Lord, Dt 30:3 Amos 9:9-14 Acts 15:14-17.
(4) Restoration to the land, Dt 30:5 Isa 11:11,12 Jer 23:3-8 Ezek 37:21-25
(5) National conversion, Dt 30:6 Rom 11:26,27 Hos 2:14-16
(6) The judgment of Israel's oppressors, Dt 30:7 Isa 14:1,2 Joel 3:1-8 Mt 25:31-46
(7) National prosperity, Dt 30:9 Amos 9:11-14
See, for the other seven covenants:
EDENIC See Scofield Note: "Gen 1:28"
ADAMIC See Scofield Note: "Gen 3:15"
ABRAHAMIC See Scofield Note: "Gen 15:18"
NOAHIC See Scofield Note: "Gen 9:1"
MOSAIC See Scofield Note: "Ex 19:25"
DAVIDIC See Scofield Note: "2Sam 7:16"
NEW See Scofield Note: "Heb 8:8"
30:1-10 In this chapter is a plain intimation of the mercy God has in store for Israel in the latter days. This passage refers to the prophetic warnings of the last two chapters, which have been mainly fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans, and in their dispersion to the present day; and there can be no doubt that the prophetic promise contained in these verses yet remain to come to pass. The Jewish nation shall in some future period, perhaps not very distant, be converted to the faith of Christ; and, many think, again settled in the land of Canaan. The language here used is in a great measure absolute promises; not merely a conditional engagement, but declaring an event assuredly to take place. For the Lord himself here engages to circumcise their hearts; and when regenerating grace has removed corrupt nature, and Divine love has supplanted the love of sin, they certainly will reflect, repent, return to God, and obey him; and he will rejoice in doing them good. The change that will be wrought upon them will not be only outward, or consisting in mere opinions; it will reach to their souls. It will produce in them an utter hatred of all sin, and a fervent love to God, as their reconciled God in Christ Jesus; they will love him with all their hearts, and with all their soul. They are very far from this state of mind at present, but so were the murderers of the Lord Jesus, on the day of Pentecost; who yet in one hour were converted unto God. So shall it be in the day of God's power; a nation shall be born in a day; the Lord will hasten it in his time. As a conditional promise this passage belongs to all persons and all people, not to Israel only; it assures us that the greatest sinners, if they repent and are converted, shall have their sins pardoned, and be restored to God's favour.

Genesis 28:15 "Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land; for I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you."
Genesis 48:21 Then Israel said to Joseph, "Behold, I am about to die, but God will be with you, and bring you back to the land of your fathers.
Deuteronomy 4:27 "The LORD will scatter you among the peoples, and you will be left few in number among the nations where the LORD drives you.
Psalm 126:1 A Song of Ascents. When the LORD brought back the captive ones of Zion, We were like those who dream.
Psalm 126:4 Restore our captivity, O LORD, As the streams in the South.
Psalm 147:2 The LORD builds up Jerusalem; He gathers the outcasts of Israel.
Jeremiah 29:14 'I will be found by you,' declares the LORD, 'and I will restore your fortunes and will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you,' declares the LORD, 'and I will bring you back to the place from where I sent you into exile.'
Jeremiah 32:37 "Behold, I will gather them out of all the lands to which I have driven them in My anger, in My wrath and in great indignation; and I will bring them back to this place and make them dwell in safety.
Ezekiel 34:13 "I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries and bring them to their own land; and I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the streams, and in all the inhabited places of the land

Thank you for this..


I did enjoy this download... I know Tony Pearce's content is available elsewhere, but this one is slightly different in that it was discussional. Would have likes to have heard more on replacement theology discussion - in fact each sub topic could have been expanded into a series of its own, so the soundbites are a great starter - (hint!).

Obama sides with Israel but at the same time betrays...

You are right, it is very subtle, very,very sublte, but this is how enemy operates, he can push even well meaning person to a wrong direction if the person is not grounded in God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and his law and promises the better still is if the person knows Y'shua=salvation/Jesus as then, the person has a 3rd person, spirit of the Truth, Holy Spirit guiding him whilst here on earth, the one Jesus left for his true followers, supernatural adviser and helper, the sprit that gives carnal mind spiritual discerning...William all we can do is to pray Y'shua and Elohim as they are in control and be watchmen, Natsarim, and watch the guy and his every move...

one end time scenario: He does not want to(see sarcasm) to punish or force Israel into anything, but hence the international front, that now he himself is gathering will be demanind for intervention, after long process, ocassionally siding with Israel to make it look more real, he then "reluctantly" agrees to force intervention...Israel will not have that, us Israel supporters will not have that...the mess is there!

but God is in control and I believe trhough his mercy we can stop this..
May God Bless U brother